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Re: On the flip side...

You're right, I probably did get that from P&P2. It's not unreasonable, but also not supported by the text itself. I was too busy finding an obscure bit of Emma, apparently, to look that up...

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Re: To marry for love

QuoteSuzanne OSince we're discussing fan fiction tropes, this is one I would point out--this idea that Darcy assumes Elizabeth would only marry for love because that, of course, is the morally...

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Re: Fortune v. dowry

This is one of those places where the text is not specific. When I needed details, I supposed the 30,000 pounds 'came from her mother' - that is, the 30K was her mother's dowry, and when Lady Anne...

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Re: JA's Darcy and Elizabeth in adaptations and fanfics

I understood that, Nikki (you even pointed the exception out), and I totally agree on your opinion of those sorts of stories. Bratty Elizabeths get on my nerves. I think sometimes writers who aren't...

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But we know... Really? Do we?

Forgive me for complaining, but some of my dear JA fanfic aficionados can suck the life out of Austen and the imaginative stories based upon her novels, by demanding that everything she said must be...

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Re: To marry for love

Refusing to marry a man you can't stand just so you can get your own house is different from making a marriage that, much like Marianne's with Brandon, is based on friendship and esteem rather than...

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Still true today, no?(nfm)

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Re: To marry for love

NieNie Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I do think that Austen presents marriage based on> affection, esteem or love as morally superior, but> as always she...

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Re: Attacks on JA Fanfiction from the establishment

I can't answer your question about critics, etc, but it's easy to explain why JA isn't mentioned so much.At the major site for fanfiction of all genres, there are more than 600,000 stories for Harry...

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Re: To marry for love

QuoteI hear your friend Lord North is wedded; somebody said, “It is very hot weather to marry so fat a bride”; G. Selwyn replied. “Oh! she was kept in ice for three days before.”GROAN!

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Re: Still true today, no?

But these days, marriage is treated much less like a career and more like a personal lifestyle choice. In Regency times, a woman who didn't want to resign herself to being a dependent on a male...

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Ditto ;)(nfm)

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precisely

I don't trust rumors of that sort in my own life, and I believe the use of the word 'report' here was intended to be understood ironically. As to the size of Georgiana's fortune though, Darcy refers...

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Re: Attacks on JA Fanfiction from the establishment

Perhaps another part of the reason for, perhaps a better quality of JA ff-s, is that more is needed between the ears to even READ JA. Even at my great age, the enlightenment that the classical use of...

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I agree

In the novel she's tiresomely self-satisfied at first. He insults her at the assembly and she goes around attacking him for months, including being eager to believe (and apparently spread) the worst...

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Re: precisely

I take "report" there the same way. One of the major themes of P&P is the variety of reports encountered. Caroline's letter to Jane with its insinuations about Georgiana, Wickham's story about the...

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Re: To marry for love

SuzanneRe your comment below:> Fanny Price's mother is thoroughly punished for her imprudence> in marrying "to disoblige her family."Yeah, Frences Ward suffers, but it's not because she married...

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Re: Fortune v. dowry

Being Irish, I put my full reliance on that classic film, The Quiet Man, in which fortune and dowry are used interchangeably. I figured they were interchangeable in P&P, as well.JIM

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Persuasion vs. Pride and Prejudice

So, at the end of her life, Jane Austen is a romantic who advocates marrying for love -- perhaps only for love of the deepest kind? Is the choice Anne Elliott makes very different from the one...

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Re: Persuasion vs. Pride and Prejudice

I think her feeling deepened and she matured as she got older and reflected back on not just her life, but life in general. We all do that. I know I have. I am a grandmother now, and I do not think,...

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